http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ MacSpeech Forums and Discussion: Recent Posts en Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:12:18 +0000 http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=169#post-760 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:30:35 +0000 mike 760@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I am on my third voice model, have corrected it using correction mode - literally - hundreds of times. I have also tried vocabulary training. By typing some correct text and then cutting and pasting it again and again, I have fed it the same correct phrase in a text document repeated several thousand times (pretty quick to do, actually - just cut and paste it a few times, then select all, cut and paste THAT a few times, then select all, cut and paste THAT a few times - you will have a 1000 page text document in a few seconds). </p> <p>I guess the correction and vocabulary training modes really don't do much.</p> <p>I don't doubt that some people can dictate effusion and have it recognized, there must be something with the way I speak that Dictate doesn't like..</p> <p>If I say "effusion effusion effusion..." over and over it eventually gets it, but that isn't much help. I see about 80-100 patients a week, dictate a letter for each visit, and it's just depressing how the system can't be made to learn. I certainly understand the limits of voice recognition, but you would think that if I am dictating such a volume of such similar letters, that eventually it would get it...!</p> <p>I wonder if the development team reads these forums. I would pay a lot for an upgraded version that lets you delete words... </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=21#post-759 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:10:26 +0000 Marc_Davis 759@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>@jayg</p> <p>All of us are waiting for the "dual editing" feature to be repaired. If I'm not mistaken, "dual editing" works with Dragon. If you get dual editing to work, I guarantee the complaints about Dictate will go way down! I have been complaining about this problem to you for months, although I didn't have such a catchy phrase. I guarantee that this is the most important problem that Dictate currently faces. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=169#post-758 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:58:17 +0000 KT 758@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Hello, I am also using Dictate for medical dictation, and have been disappointed with frequent repeated errors. However I previously successfully got it to recognize the abbreviation "A1C" (for hemoglobin A1C), after correcting it about 20-30 times, it worked fine for a few months, then stopped getting recognized, it now types is "81 sea" or various other misrecognitions. Has anyone else had a problem with a trained word suddenly reverting back to misrecognized words? There are a few other words/phrases that I use frequently, and it appears pretty hit and miss as to whether or not they are correctly recognized, such as "Humulin N" instead of "humulin and", etc. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=84&page=2#post-757 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:31:33 +0000 ozdazza 757@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Hello Folks</p> <p>My last contact with MacSpeech support left me up in the air about what is going to be done with the fixes that need to be made so that the commands in the latest version of Dictate actually work. </p> <p>I am using Mac OSX 10.5.6 in the Japanese language. I was told I had to change the language settings to US English. But if I do this, it defeats the whole purpose of using Dictate in the first place. I read Japanese text on the screen and speak the English translation into Dictate. That is what I got Dictate for! </p> <p>It seems strange that MacSpeech are asking other native English speakers such as New Zealanders to do the same.</p> <p>What is puzzling is that Dictate worked fine in the first release. I just wish MacSpeech would admit the bug and let us know that they are working on it. If I ask this type of thing of support my question is disregarded. So it seems the forums are the only place left to get some sort of response.</p> <p>Looking forward to some news.</p> <p>Darren McDonald<br /> Tokyo </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=156#post-756 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:30:56 +0000 pdbecht 756@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>My random characters are back. I cannot get the program to delete them. either. I have to do it by hand.</p> <p>pdbecht </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=182#post-755 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:35:23 +0000 jayg 755@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Ah, to delete a space-- that which does not appear--perhaps a metaphysical dilemma? ;-)</p> <p>OK, rather than attempt to distract you with humor, here are suggestions:</p> <p>The command "No Space &lt;word&gt;" prints the next word without a space before it.</p> <p>To back up, you could say "Scratch That", then "No Space cite". Or "Select The Word cite", then "No Space cite". (And in this case you may have to use the Recognition window, as "site", "sight" and "cite" may all appears as choices).</p> <p>The command "No Space On" puts you into a mode where everything you dictate will be without spaces, until you speak "No Space Off".</p> <p>Spelling Mode also prints everything without spaces.</p> <p>The command "Spacebar" will type a space. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=182#post-754 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:35:37 +0000 Joanna 754@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>This is kind of another "moving around" issue. I write in latex (the markup language, not the clothes), so I quite often am getting things like \ cite when I really need \cite. I'm making macros for some of the common ones, but I would like to be able to say "backspace" from the front of the word that needs changing, or even "delete the space between backslash and cite" </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=109#post-753 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:31:02 +0000 Joanna 753@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I want to agree that you need to be able to spell UK english with a -ise For a very simple reason. It's all well and good to say either ize or ise are allowed, but BOTH are certainly not allowed in a single document. My UK spell checker therefore gets rid of all the ize versions, which I think is the right &#38; dominant choice in UK publishing. This is the kind of thing that is very hard to catch with manual spell checking, so it's important to facilitate automatic spell checkers. (or chequers ;-) </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-752 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:41:51 +0000 Joanna 752@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>How do you "leave a ticket" with technical support? I don't see a way to file bug reports. Do you mean "e-mail tech support"?</p> <p>The email tech support thing in the product wants me to use mac mail, which I don't have set up. (again, I do file bug reports from other products, but have never had to go through mac mail to do it!) </p> <p>Ah -- I filled in the "contact tech support" form from this web site, hope that's what you meant! </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-751 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:32:47 +0000 Joanna 751@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I've put a bunch more hours into this (only because I've had a severe flare-up of arm problems and I have a hard deadline on Monday!) and while I am impressed with aspects of the technology, I still find the navigation issue BLINDINGLY inconvenient and slow. At least with the way I write. It works OK if I write everything down in advance longhand and just read it to the machine, but that is also very slow and bad for my right arm. </p> <p>I cannot get "go to end" or "Move to end of document" to work. I get the words recognized, but not treated like commands.</p> <p>I do not need another list of commands since I have them both in the user guide and in the "available commands window". By the way, those two phrases don't appear in my available commands window, which seems to accurately reflect what my product can do. or were you suggesting I download a new command list for my product, that would change its behavior?</p> <p>Also, I cannot remember that it should be "go to end" but HAS to be "select THE words..." or "insert after THE words..." I can see those extra key words will help disambiguate, but they also massively slow down navigation. Also, you HAVE to be consistent if you want users to be able to learn and remember commands! </p> <p>I can see that you are doing something clever in terms of keeping the speech representations around and that is what is messing up your dual entry. But given that you have to express the words in characters in the window anyway, I totally can't see why you can't translate mouse input through the same representation back into the speech files? Even if you don't allow typing, being able to use the mouse the same as "select" or "insert" would be a huge win. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-750 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:57:11 +0000 jayg 750@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <blockquote><p>In terms of navigation commands, I have had no problems with navigating to the beginning or end with the commands "go to beginning" and "go to end" </p></blockquote> <p>"Move To End of Document" also works.</p> <p>There are a couple of lists of commands downloadable from the <a href="/pages.php?pID=63">Support Center page</a>, along with the v1.2.x QuickStart Guide and User Manual (especially Chapter 5) which describe MacSpeech Dictate's commands.</p> <p><a href="http://www.atmac.org/">ATMac</a> also published a list that their publisher uses, organized by command type:<br /> &lt;http://atmac.org/macspeech-dictate-global-commands-list-cheat-sheet-for-121/&gt;</p> <p>If you paste text into Dictate's Note Pad, use the "Cache Document" command so that Dictate discovers the text. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-749 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:27:24 +0000 VLMaples 749@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Dear Joanna;</p> <p>I hope you will be patient and give MacSpeech Dictate a chance. It is a brand-new program, written from the ground up. People sometimes confuse the fact that it uses Dragon NaturallySpeaking's engine with the fact that the programming code had to be entirely created from Ground Zero in MacOS X. Dragon NaturallySpeaking has been available in some format for well over a decade, so they have much more foundation. MacSpeech Dictate is a very stable program for such a massive undertaking, in my opinion.</p> <p>In terms of navigation commands, I have had no problems with navigating to the beginning or end with the commands "go to beginning" and "go to end" I have used them several times within this just to test it to be sure. Hopefully they will begin working for you as well, if not, leave a ticket with technical support.</p> <p>Best wishes!<br /> Valerie </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-748 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:46:38 +0000 Joanna 748@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I think I've figured it out. I read the release notes on the new version, and it seems they deleted all the commands unless they have the words "the words" in them. They also seem to have removed the commands for moving to the beginning and end of the document. So things are slow, but at least tractable. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=21#post-747 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:14:45 +0000 Joanna 747@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I completely agree with Oliver. I have the new upgrade and this is still broken. This is a *fatal* flaw. I am *very* good with computers and I am having a lot of trouble figuring out what the "right" solution is that MacSpeech intends us to use. Even if I find it, most people will not spend this kind of effort. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=181#post-746 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:06:56 +0000 Joanna 746@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I've just got MacSpeech set up and while I'm impressed by the recognition, I'm APPALLED by the fact I can't use my mouse to navigate in the text like with Dragon! Some people in the forums have said "of course" you can't do both -- I have a PhD in AI and I don't see the reasoning here. </p> <p>But anyway, given that we are stuck with this system AND the recognition is pretty good, I thought "OK, I'll navigate the slow way" and started trying to move around the text like it says to in the user manual. However, the program just inserts "move to" and "go to" into my document! I don't see a way on the correction window to tell it that it correctly recognized the words but incorrectly thought they were text, not a command. Help! How are you supposed to fix this? </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=128#post-745 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:47:19 +0000 Larryjay 745@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>thank you for your help. I suppose, the only reason for wishing to use the notepad is that it is always already open. I did try to trick you mentioned and it does work.</p> <p>Thanks again<br /> Larry Jay </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=155#post-744 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:36:58 +0000 Larryjay 744@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>In the last solution looked easiest, so I tried it. It did not work for me. I tried cutting and Pasteing and then actual typing without getting it to work.</p> <p>I do not know much about AppleScript's, but can someone provide hints as to why I did not get the desired result.</p> <p> Larry Jay </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=169#post-743 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:51:58 +0000 VLMaples 743@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I frequently dictate extensive medical text and do not generally have a problem, I have dictated the phrase pleural effusion without a problem. I don't know what the issue is for you, but when I have a hard time getting the word recognized, I think of it in a phrase and then delete the extraneous words that would change the context to the proper recognition. That is not the answer you are looking for, of course, but it makes it a very handy workaround. For what it's worth, however, the word effusion is not a problem for me. It must be something about your voice model. Have you tried creating a new profile? Each time I have dictated it, it has appeared correctly.</p> <p>Valerie </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=169#post-742 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:52:43 +0000 mike 742@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Right, but what is the point of saying that the program has a "training mode" or that it can correct its own model.</p> <p>I have really had it with this... I have corrected the *#$(*#&#38;( word "effusion" hundreds of times. It just can't do it. Either that or it is somehow intelligent and malicious, and trying to drive me crazy...</p> <p>If these people would JUST MAKE IS SO THAT YOU CAN DELETE WORDS FROM THE VOCABULARY, all of this would go away. I can't understand, from a programming point of view, why that is such a tall order.</p> <p>Very disappointing. I really had high hopes for this one... </p> <p>Oh, well... too bad, medical dictating is probably the biggest market for something like this. It's a shame that they came so far, but can't actually get it to work well enough to be practical. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=156#post-741 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:35:40 +0000 jayg 741@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Whether you are posting to these forums or contacting Technical Support, please be specific about:</p> <ol> <li>Your system configuration. </li> <li>Description and version numbers of applications, and relevant configurations or preference settings. </li> <li>Description of your problem. i.e. What <em>is</em> happening and/or What is <em>not</em> happening? </li> <li>What actions you were performing at the time a problem occurred. </li> <li>What actions you already took to try to resolve this. </li> <li>Other application configuration details (e.g. preferences) </li> <li> Possibly, what <em>is</em> working, so that the problem can be narrowed, or differentiated. </li> </ol> <p>-- Based on this information, decide if you have a unique situation to troubleshoot. If so, then you may want to start a <em>new</em> Topic.</p> <p>For further guidance with these forums, please review the <a href="http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/forum.php?id=6">Information, Rules &#38; Guidelines</a>. Note that MacSpeech administrators monitor these discussions, but do not read or respond to every question. </p> <p>To contact MacSpeech directly, please follow the Contact Us or Contact Support links. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=82#post-740 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:27:53 +0000 jayg 740@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Please read the sticky forum posting above.</p> <p>Reposting:</p> <blockquote><p>Based on this information, decide if you have a unique situation to troubleshoot. If so, then you may want to start a new Topic.</p></blockquote> <p>You can also contact Technical Support. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=117#post-739 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:26:29 +0000 anpasa 739@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I'm having the same problem (Dictate version 1.2.1, OS X.4.11). I've been using the uppermost profile, and the program seems to run alright. A month ago, I tried deleting all the profiles but the uppermost, but that crashed the program, and I had to create a new profile from scratch. The program's working fine, but the profiles are beginning to pile up, and I'm afraid to start deleting. Any ideas? </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=179#post-738 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:59:17 +0000 sawxray 738@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>After a considerable amount of time and effort, I find the problem even worse than I had initially thought.</p> <p>I've now spent almost 8 hours meticulously training a few selected medical words, in the context of sentences and paragraphs. I have created large amounts of repetitive text through cut and paste on the notepad of MacSpeech Dictate, and then performed training on this selection.</p> <p>I then find the following: if I open a new Notepad window, I can dictate all of these words with excellent accuracy. I can create new paragraphs and sentences using these words, and maintain this excellent accuracy. However-as soon as I quit the program and restart it, I am back to square one in terms of these specific words, and in many cases, it appears that my accuracy has even worsened!</p> <p>I have an additional, interesting problem. The program refuses to spell my last name correctly. I've taken the steps outlined above to repeat my last name endlessly with correct spelling, and even following this training immediately, the program substitutes a vowel in my name. So... I created a text macro based on the incorrect spelling of my name as the input, with the correct spelling of my name as the output. Sometimes this works. Other times, stunningly, the program spells out the exact phrase I am pronouncing, without substituting the text macro! I wonder to myself, "how can the program recognize so accurately the name I am saying, and yet refuse to insert the text macro?"</p> <p>For commonplace English, the program is superbly accurate and quite fast compared to Dragon NaturallySpeaking, which I have used for quite some time. Unfortunately, many potential users would like to add specific words, including the names of their friends or, unsurprisingly, their OWN names. It is unfortunate that the promise of this program keeps me wasting so much of my time! If it worked poorly with standard English, I would have given up by now. The fact that it is so accurate and fast with standard English fills me with the false promise of it working for my particular purposes. I feel very disappointed and, surprisingly, somewhat saddened. I am spending the rest of today taking time off from this program and my efforts with this program. I will decide by the end of the week whether to delete the program from my computer. The cost of the software is minimal to me. The cost of my time is tremendously valuable to me. I refuse to waste my time when the program seems to discard my changes uniformly.</p> <p>The end result is that I have little faith in the ability of this program to learn, and it would not be worth my time invested in it. I will check again on a program in six months to a year if I do not find a workable solution at present.</p> <p>I hold a slim hope that someone else has experienced this problem, and has found a way to overcome it. If anybody can point me in the right direction, I will be highly grateful. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=156#post-737 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:07:04 +0000 drdave 737@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Happens to me too with "O's or "Y" or "N's. I have a USB mic, and the errors do not happen in the middle of a sentence, only at the end. Wierd. . .The error doesn't occur everytime, but seems to happen if Dictate is left on overnight.</p> <p>Dave </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=169#post-736 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:02:27 +0000 drdave 736@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I've found that Dictate seems to think certain words are pronounced a certain way, no matter how *you actually say them or even the "correct" medical pronunciation. It may be worth experimenting to see whether Dictate recognizes EEfusion versus EHfusion; TinEYETis versus TinITTis, etc. Sometimes that works. I agree about training it on medical dictionaries, ICD-9, etc.</p> <p>Dave </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=180#post-735 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:55:25 +0000 drdave 735@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Has anyone else had the problem of Dictate endlessly processing vocabulary in documents for hours at a time, even when there are only a few words to be learned? I've tired documents pasted to the Notepad or documents in Word and the result is the same. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=179#post-734 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:17:48 +0000 sawxray 734@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I have read with interest the questions about training Dictate for specific words, especially in the medical context.</p> <p>I am a long-term user of Dragon NaturallySpeaking on the Windows platform. I began my switch to Mac approximately one year ago, and now am using a Mac almost 100% of the time.</p> <p>I have followed with interest for some time now the evolution of MacSpeech Dictate. For Christmas, my wife gave me MacSpeech Dictate. I was happy at first.</p> <p>I am a radiologist, and find it quite natural to speak with punctuation, as I do in my job. As a long-term user of Dragon, I created an extensive medical vocabulary by investing a significant amount of time in training specific words that I use often. I was more than willing to attempt to sort of training with MacSpeech Dictate.</p> <p>At first, I found some success using the following method: I would meticulously create sentences and paragraphs with specific medical words, using the rather slow method of spelling mode. I would then copy and paste large numbers of repetitions of these sentences and paragraphs, select all text, and then select "Train Vocabulary from Selection".</p> <p>At first, I was very pleasantly surprised. Immediately after performing such training, the program responded superbly.</p> <p>However, I soon ran into a serious glitch. If I quit the application and restarted it, the program was uniquely insensitive to my specially trained words. No matter how may times I have attempted to repeat my initial success, I have found that the training lasts only as long as the session remains open. It appears that the saving of the profile does not save any of my training.</p> <p>I have been unable to train the program to recognize my name! I had to create a text macro to serve this purpose. To me, that seems to indicate that the program has an extremely weak ability to be trained.</p> <p>One of the words I have trained endlessly, "Costoclavicular" will ALWAYS capitalize itself, even in the middle of a sentence. When I created large paragraphs using the lowercase version of this word, then train to the vocabulary from that selection, "costoclavicular" worked 100% of the time. However, as soon as I closed and reopened the session, handed up with the same initial problem.</p> <p>I have also suffered numerous crashes, even though I am using a fully updated Leopard system.</p> <p>In Dragon, I would go into the vocabulary editor and a race the words that were capitalized, that I would never use as capitalized in my normal dictation. Obviously, as others have mentioned, this is not currently possible in MacSpeech Dictate.</p> <p>Has anyone else found this problem?</p> <p>Am I perhaps doing something wrong when quitting the application?</p> <p>Is there some specific way to save the changes I have made so that the program responds as though I were still in the same session where I created the changes?</p> <p>Thank you in advance for your help. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=178#post-733 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:34:59 +0000 jayg 733@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Dictate's support requirements are that a microphone be:</p> <ol> <li>High-quality</li> <li>Noise-cancelling</li> <li>Positioned consistently relative to your vocal chords</li> <li>USB</li> </ol> <p>For headset mics, make sure the microphone is one to two fingertips away from the corner of your mouth.</p> <p>#3 is one reason why a built-in mic doesn't work consistently. Even a desktop mic may have the same issue. Some (wireless) microphones can be worn on a lapel, but then they are still consistently positioned. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=160#post-732 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:31:20 +0000 jayg 732@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Here is the install procedure from a direct download:</p> <ol> <li>Download the <a href="/MacSpeech_Dictate.zip">Latest Release of MacSpeech Dictate</a>.</li> <li> Unzip and place Dictate in the Applications folder (or anywhere for that matter)</li> <li> Insert the white Data Disc from the v1.x box. (This Data Disc DVD-ROM is the same for v1.0.x or v1.2.1)</li> <li> Run Dictate v1.2.1, it will load what it needs from the Data Disc DVD-ROM.</li> <li> Proceed with using Dictate.</li> </ol> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=178#post-731 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:02:40 +0000 curios 731@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>I am surprised that MacSpeech does not recognize the mic on the new MacBook. I bought the new MacBook because my old G4 Powerbook did not support MacSpeech. But I also bought it for portability - does not make any sense to me, that if the microphones in the older MacBooks work that they won't in this one. I don't want to have to carry a big mike around with me from my office to my home. Can MacSpeech help? </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=177#post-730 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:30:51 +0000 mzungo 730@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>There is quite a lot of discussion on this forum about microphones. Is there any consensus amongst forum users as to the best microphone to use for maximum accuracy? Do you get what you pay for is? It in individual preference?</p> <p>Your thoughts would be very much appreciated. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=176#post-729 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:01:56 +0000 Marc_Davis 729@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>jayg, xoomaster:</p> <p> I agree with xoomaster; I note that all the comments of ex-Dragon users are very similar to my own, made in the last few months. I feel that points of 11 and 12 are especially timely. Dictate is converging closer to Dragon, and version 1.2 is much better than 1.1, but you need another big update to become competitive. When might we expect it? </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=176#post-728 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:48:11 +0000 xoomaster 728@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Yes, all potential options are listed on the first line. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=174#post-727 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:18:53 +0000 jayg 727@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>One reminder:<br /> Once you leave a cell, you shouldn't go back to that cell later and try to edit the text by voice. For the active cell, Dictate keeps track of dictation (in it's "cache"), but the spreadsheet doesn't allow it to access older dictation across columns or rows.</p> <p>With this in mind, v1.2.1 introduced the Next Field and Previous Field commands. These have a "Purge Cache" command built into them. So, when you go to the next cell, Dictate releases track of text was previously dictated. Again, this is so it doesn't go looking for text that isn't the current cell.</p> <p>If you use New Line, Press OK or Tab Key, you might want to throw in a "Purge Cache" each time it takes you to a new cell. And use the Next Field &#38; Previous Field commands.</p> <p>Generally speaking, the same rules apply to databases, and database fields. </p> http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/topic.php?id=23#post-726 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:09:36 +0000 MoonWalker 726@http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/forums/ <p>Mail<br /> Office Mac<br /> Safari<br /> Text Edit</p> <p>These are the ones that most people on here seem to be using. The Dictation commands (move &lt;1-99&gt; words forwards/backwards, insert word before/after &lt;text&gt;, etc.) and the commands that are in the manual and not in the avail commands window are prob ones that people will want. </p>